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May 2011
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naamah_darling makes a very cogent post.

omimouse replies:

May Kali Durga take them, every last one of them.

At this point, if someone professes themselves as 'pro-life', I will not tolerate them in my life. With this ruling; with this law, they have just made it abundantly clear that they think I deserve to die.

We're only a few laws away from me considering each and every one of them a direct threat to my life.
naamah_darling comes back with:
YES. Thank you for putting it that way.

That's why I don't tolerate that shit from people in my life, either. I have stopped speaking to people over it, and I don't feel any regret at all.

It's very real for me, considering that I can't use most birth control, and if I got knocked up, I'd be pretty much (pardon the pun) fucked, because my uterus is completely screwed up. Anyone who tells me that abortion is not okay has just told me that, hey, it's no big deal if I die in screaming agony from an ectopic pregnancy.

And those who say that they'd ever-so-graciously grant me an exception for my health are still patronizing fucks who deserve to have their colon filled with live electric eels.
I think this captures some things I feel right now very well. I understand that for some people it's a truly complex question...but in my experience the ones I know who struggle with it (and whom I respect for the struggle) are not the ones who can just smugly sum it up as "pro-life".

And at some point, showing no respect for the right to life of a thinking human being under the guise of respecting the supposed rights of an already dead fetus? Calling that pro-life is beyond hypocrisy, it's disgusting.

But, as naamah_darling so eloquently pointed out, what do I know? I'm a fucking animal.

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Re: Non-smug Frog

As you might've guessed, I was thinking of you specifically when I said "[they] are not the ones who can just smugly sum it up as "pro-life"."

Having talked to you a bunch, I believe that you truly struggle over the whole issue, and see it for the complex issue it is. Most people who call themselves pro-life, after some discussion discussion, make it clear that it's all about control of women's bodies, and they don't give a flying fuck about the (potential) child except as a tool of control, and this is made obvious by their attitude about the child once it's born.

I can respect the former, even when I disagree. I have nothing but disgust and, recently, fury for the latter.

Anyone who does something like sum it up as "abortion is murder and so it's simple to me" is doing the latter, whether they like it or not. When you remove the adult, clearly sentient person from the equation, you're making it clear you don't consider them human. As long as you believe there are two humans involved in the question, it cannot be simple.

Re: Non-smug Frog

When you remove the adult, clearly sentient person from the equation, you're making it clear you don't consider them human.

I had to read that three times before I understood what you meant. The first two times I read 'remove the adult, clearly sentient person' and thought that was referring to the simple-minded arguers being non-sentient. :) (Which I don't know that I'd disagree with...)

So...no eels, right?